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[BOINCstats] Willy
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Posted 2018-12-15 07:51:07 , last modified: 2019-01-13 07:56:59
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The following project require you to consent to exporting your statistics to stats sites. If you do not do so your data will be removed from the export and in accordance with the GDPR all your data from these projects will be removed from BOINCstats as well. This data can’t be recovered!

You need to consent before they enforce the setting in the export!

  • Albert@home *
  • Einstein@Home *
  • LHC@Home *
  • LHCathome-dev *
  • NumberFields@home
  • World Community Grid *
  • WUProp@Home


*Already enforced

Project owners: Please let me know in time when you add this setting so I can add your project to this list!


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Posted 2018-12-15 11:57:36
You can add LHCathome-dev to the list that requires consent.
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Posted 2018-12-17 17:41:19
Seems like WGC is opt out, so doesn't require you to do anything, LHC is opt in.
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Posted 2018-12-17 20:21:34
Any news on the stats export from LHC@Home?

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Posted 2018-12-18 07:09:50
I found it at Einstein@Home, but where is this settings in WCG?
Would it possible to use BAM to set this option in all projects to "yes"?

Have a N.I.C.E. day!

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Posted 2018-12-18 09:36:25
IndianaX wrote:
I found it at Einstein@Home, but where is this settings in WCG?

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProfile.do

Just below the middle of the page you see: Choose to display or hide your data
[BOINCstats] Willy
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Posted 2018-12-18 11:05:22
IndianaX wrote:

Would it possible to use BAM to set this option in all projects to "yes"?

Currently no, probably never, due to the GDPR.

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Posted 2018-12-18 20:40:22
[BOINCstats Willy wrote:

Comments on the following newsitem

The following project require you to consent to exporting your statistics to stats sites. If you do not do so your data will be removed from the export and in accordance with the GDPR all your data from these projects will be removed from BOINCstats as well. This data can’t be recovered!

You need to consent before they enforce the setting in the export!

  • Albert@home *
  • Einstein@Home *
  • LHC@Home *
  • LHCathome-dev *
  • World Community Grid *


*Already enforced

Project owners: Please let me know in time when you add this setting so I can add your project to this list!





WUProp also.

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Posted 2018-12-18 21:32:39 , last modified: 2018-12-18 21:34:36
dduggan47 wrote:
WUProp also.

It looks like WUProp might be "opt out". This option in my preferences is checked and I took no action to do it, that I can remember:

  • Should WUProp@Home show app hours statistics on your account data page and export statistics?


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Posted 2018-12-18 21:36:02
ritterm wrote:

dduggan47 wrote:
WUProp also.

It looks like WUProp might be "opt out". This option in my preferences is checked and I took no action to do it, that I can remember:

  • Should WUProp@Home show app hours statistics on your account data page and export statistics?




Well, I thought I changed it earlier today because it wasn't checked. OTOH the older I get the confuseder I am.

- Dick
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Posted 2018-12-18 23:04:01 , last modified: 2018-12-18 23:06:04
dduggan47 wrote:
OTOH the older I get the confuseder I am.

Happens to me all the time! So, I could very well be the one who's mistaken... Regardless, thanks for pointing it out -- always good to double-check before data gets lost.

Cheers,

MarkR

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Posted 2018-12-19 01:08:40
I've been through every single preferences page on LHC@home and didn't see anything about exporting data. Anyone know where it is?
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Posted 2018-12-19 01:50:29
reepingk wrote:
I've been through every single preferences page on LHC@home and didn't see anything about exporting data. Anyone know where it is?

From your user account page -> Preferences -> Preferences for this project -> LHC@Home preferences -> Primary (default) preferences:

  • Resource share
  • Use CPU
  • Use ATI GPU
  • Run test applications?
  • Is it OK for LHC@home and your team (if any) to email you?
  • Emails will be sent from Admin.Lhcathome@cern.ch; make sure your spam filter accepts this address.
  • Should LHC@home show your computers on its web site?
  • General terms-of-use for this BOINC project.
  • Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?




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Posted 2018-12-19 07:34:34 , last modified: 2018-12-19 07:38:21
dduggan47 wrote:

ritterm wrote:

dduggan47 wrote:
WUProp also.

It looks like WUProp might be "opt out". This option in my preferences is checked and I took no action to do it, that I can remember:
  • Should WUProp@Home show app hours statistics on your account data page and export statistics?



Well, I thought I changed it earlier today because it wasn't checked. OTOH the older I get the confuseder I am.

- Dick

It was not checked for me so it's opt-in. I'll add it to the list. Not enforced though.

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Posted 2018-12-19 14:09:10
I'm fairly sure that for wuprop it's only the export of the additional app data for hours that the checkbox is for and not the standard boinc exports like the others.
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Posted 2018-12-19 15:35:24
ritterm wrote:

reepingk wrote:
I've been through every single preferences page on LHC@home and didn't see anything about exporting data. Anyone know where it is?

From your user account page -> Preferences -> Preferences for this project -> LHC@Home preferences -> Primary (default) preferences:

  • Resource share
  • Use CPU
  • Use ATI GPU
  • Run test applications?
  • Is it OK for LHC@home and your team (if any) to email you?
  • Emails will be sent from Admin.Lhcathome@cern.ch; make sure your spam filter accepts this address.
  • Should LHC@home show your computers on its web site?
  • General terms-of-use for this BOINC project.
  • Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?






Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?

Seems that they removed this item.
Crystal Pellet
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Posted 2018-12-19 15:57:27 , last modified: 2018-12-19 16:00:02
LHC@Home project administrator wrote:

We are disabling the required consent to export statistics for now, and have raised an issue to include a link to the terms of use on the project preference page in the upstream BOINC code.



@Willy, what's happening when the import file is suddenly much bigger than the previous one
[BOINCstats] Willy
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Posted 2018-12-19 16:17:20
Crystal Pellet wrote:

LHC@Home project administrator wrote:

We are disabling the required consent to export statistics for now, and have raised an issue to include a link to the terms of use on the project preference page in the upstream BOINC code.



@Willy, what's happening when the import file is suddenly much bigger than the previous one

That just works. Except that the returning users have lost their LHC history.

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Posted 2018-12-19 16:24:35
DHEP has the check-box
[BOINCstats] Willy
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Posted 2018-12-19 16:27:03
JohnMD wrote:

DHEP has the check-box

Not seeing it. "Should Distributed Hardware Evolution Project show your computers on its web site?" is not the GDPR checkbox.

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[BOINCstats Willy wrote:

JohnMD wrote:

DHEP has the check-box

Not seeing it. "Should Distributed Hardware Evolution Project show your computers on its web site?" is not the GDPR checkbox.

Sorry - it was WUProp
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Posted 2018-12-20 22:23:39
This is absolutely ridiculous on so many levels.

I have removed my team from the following projects:
Albert@home *
Einstein@Home *
LHC@Home *
LHCathome-dev *
World Community Grid *
WUProp@Home

We will never contribute to European projects again either in funding or in computations.
Crystal Pellet
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Posted 2018-12-21 09:36:45 , last modified: 2018-12-21 09:45:28
BudgieSoft wrote:

We will never contribute to European projects again either in funding or in computations.

You have the ability to delete your account for each project.
Please note that this cannot be undone once it is completed.

The process works as follows:

 - Enter in your password after you pushed the delete account link from your account home page and click on the "Send Confirmation Email" button

- You will receive an email which contains a link. Click on that link

- On the page displayed, you will need to re-enter your password and then click "Delete Account"

- Your account will then be immediately deleted

Be sure you are using a valid e-mail address.
When you have to change your e-mail address, you have to wait 7 days before 'delete account' is enabled again.

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Posted 2018-12-22 05:02:29
BudgieSoft wrote:

This is absolutely ridiculous on so many levels.

I have removed my team from the following projects:
Albert@home *
Einstein@Home *
LHC@Home *
LHCathome-dev *
World Community Grid *
WUProp@Home

We will never contribute to European projects again either in funding or in computations.

There are quite a few other European projects.
And WCG isn't European.
The projects might have acted without need, but this way they can be certain not to get into trouble.
Bummer is, people not contributing anymore because of some stupid statistics not being nice'n'easy anymore, won't do anything about the possibly existing underlying problem with the GDPR, they will just not support science.

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Greetings, Jens
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